Mariana Mazzucato’s ideas have changed how governments see their role in the economy - but where do we go from here?

Regular listeners will have heard the economist Mariana Mazzucato on this podcast before -- with George the Poet on modern-day moonshot programmes to can transform the economy, and with journalist Kamal Ahmed with a searing critique of the consulting industry. She recently returned to How To Academy to celebrate the tenth anniversary of the groundbreaking book that launched her career in the public eye - The Entrepreneurial State. The book that makes the compelling case that the state is not a bureaucratic machine standing in the way of progress, but a powerful force for innovation. What does that mean for the world in 2024 and the decades to come? She joined Hannah MacInnes to tell us more.

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