BONUS EPISODE: 'Permacrisis' with El-Erian, Brown and Spence
Sep 25, 2023
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Global economist Mohamad El-Erian, former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown, and renowned scholar Michael Spence discuss their new book 'Permacrisis'. They explore the decline of global cooperation, the importance of hope in politics and building trust, lessons from the Federal Reserve's mistakes, the challenges of the climate transition, and the significance of long-term goals for democracies.
Effective global cooperation is essential to tackle interconnected crises like pandemics, climate change, recession, and political unrest.
A reinvention of globalization is needed, considering strategic competition, national security, and inclusive growth to address the Perma Crisis.
Deep dives
The Perma Crisis: A Cascade of Crises
The podcast episode explores the concept of the Perma Crisis, which refers to a series of interconnected crises including pandemics, climate change, recession, and political unrest. The authors emphasize the need for global cooperation to address these global problems effectively, as no single country or group of countries can solve them individually. They advocate for a new theory of growth that considers environmental needs, equity, and good jobs, as well as a new theory of economic management that balances fiscal and monetary considerations. Additionally, they highlight the importance of a new theory of international cooperation to address challenges like climate change and infectious diseases.
The Decline of Cooperation in a Globalized World
The podcast discusses the decline of cooperation in a world where interconnectedness has increased. The rise of strategic competition between countries, uneven economic outcomes, and the negative attitude towards globalization have contributed to the decrease in cooperation. The authors argue for a reinvention of globalization that takes into account strategic competition, national security, and the need for inclusive growth. They emphasize that the Perma Crisis is not just a result of unfortunate events but also a reflection of structural changes, repeated policy mistakes, and the lack of inclusive and sustainable growth.
Building a New Multilateralism
The podcast highlights the need for a new multilateralism to address the challenges of a changing world. With a multipolar global landscape, increased state intervention in economies, and a shift from hyper-globalization to managed globalization, the authors argue that global institutions need to reform and adapt. They propose reforms for the International Monetary Fund (IMF), World Bank, and World Trade Organization to make them fit for purpose. They stress the importance of burden-sharing, where countries work together to tackle global issues such as climate change and humanitarian crises. The authors also acknowledge the need for trust-building and political will to drive international cooperation.
This is a special episode of the Bloomberg Surveillance podcast. Jonathan Ferro sits down with global economist Mohamad El-Erian, former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown and renowned scholar Michael Spence to discuss their new book, 'Permacrisis.'