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Debate: Old Testament vs New Testament

Apr 24, 2022

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In a lively debate, Booker Prize-winning novelist Howard Jacobson and writer Anne Atkins champion the Old Testament, rich with iconic tales like Adam and Eve and Moses. Anglican priest Richard Coles makes the case for the New Testament, emphasizing the life of Jesus and its moral teachings. The discussion touches on the enduring impact of these texts on literature and culture, the intricate relationship between the two testaments, and personal journeys of faith, all offering a thought-provoking exploration of spirituality and belief.

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ANECDOTE

Baddiel's Jewish Atheism

David Baddiel, despite being an atheist, identifies as Jewish.
He jokingly clarifies his belief system centers around Larry David, not God.

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Cursing in Literature

Howard Jacobson uses a quote from "The Bastard from the Bush" to illustrate the Old Testament's literary influence.
He highlights the "rascally exhilaration" in the Deuteronomy curse's language.

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Pleasure in Displeasure

The Old Testament explores the paradox of finding pleasure in displeasure.
This paradox connects individual impulse with God-given law, creating moral stirrings.

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Echoes of the Old Testament

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Exploring the Divergence and Interconnection of the Testaments

12:21 • 6min

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Contextualizing the New Testament

17:57 • 11min

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The Literary Spectrum of the Old and New Testament

28:30 • 4min

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Crime and Punishment

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Constance Black Garnett

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Published in 1866, 'Crime and Punishment' is a psychological novel set in St. Petersburg, Russia. It revolves around Rodion Raskolnikov, an impoverished and intellectually gifted former student who formulates a theory that some individuals are morally justified in committing crimes for the greater good of society. Raskolnikov puts this theory to the test by murdering an old pawnbroker and her half-sister, leading to a profound exploration of his psychological and emotional struggles with guilt, paranoia, and the consequences of his actions. The novel delves into socio-economic disparities, moral dilemmas, and the psychology of criminals, making it a classic of Russian literature and existential thought.

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Thomas Middleton

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Adam and Eve, Noah’s Ark, Moses and the Ten Commandments, the parting of the Red Sea. These are a few of the stories from the Old Testament. And then there’s the New Testament, with its account of the life of Jesus, the Good Samaritan, the raising of Lazarus and the feeding of the five thousand. Whatever our creed or background, these stories are embedded in our consciousness. They inform our everyday speech and much of our art, music and literature. But which of these books is the greater? For this archive episode, we gathered expert voices to consider the question including writer and broadcaster Anne Atkins, Booker Prize-winning novelist and journalist Howard Jacobson, Professor of Theology and Culture in the African Diaspora Robert Beckford, and Anglican priest and presenter the Rev. Richard Coles. Hosting the discussion is broadcaster, comedian and author David Baddiel.

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