"The key to great storytelling is change, meaningful change. Readers want to look at the beginning and end of a story and see that something has happened."

Dillan interviews Diane Callahan—aka Quotidian Writer. She's a YouTuber and podcaster in the fiction writing world. Her aim is to help creators tell better stories and 'just keep writing.'

We discuss: what makes stories good or bad, Diane's creative career, how Diane uses YouTube as a lead magnet for her business, how to collaborate with others, working on your own creations vs others' creations, the strange power of inconsistency, evergreen content, and much more.

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Doin' The Thing is a show for creators who want to build their thing better and faster. It's hosted by Dillan Taylor—certified life coach, writer, and CEO of Grindstone. He tracks his journey of scaling his first company, tells stories from 3000+ coaching sessions, and interviews creators who are way cooler than he is...to help you grow an audience, make more money, and stay consistent in your work.

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