

Alex Wagner & Rep. Brendan Boyle
Oct 16, 2025
In this discussion, Alex Wagner, a Senior Political Analyst at MSNBC and host of the Runaway Country podcast, talks about the political fallout from Trump's immigration policies and how they resonate with different audiences. Congressman Brendan Boyle, representing Pennsylvania, sheds light on the Republican-led government shutdown and the misuse of rescissions that threaten congressional power. They also delve into the disappearance of moderate Republicans and the impact of gerrymandering on democracy, painting a vivid picture of today's political landscape.
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Reporting On The Ground For Runaway Country
- Alex Wagner describes traveling to report and connect with people across the country for her new podcast.
- She highlights meeting local journalists and recurring characters who reveal deeper national stories.
Human Stories Make Headlines Resonate
- Alex Wagner argues news coverage needs human characters to make political chaos feel real and visceral.
- Her Runaway Country podcast aims to surface local stories so headlines attach to real people's lives.
Immigration Stunt Backfires Politically
- Wagner says Trump's immigration tactics appeal to a vocal racist subset but not the broader American public.
- Visuals of enforcement may energize MAGA supporters while alienating moderates and independents.