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The Vergecast

Apple mysteries and Google trials

Sep 15, 2023
Guest Adi Robertson, senior tech and policy reporter, joins the show to discuss the US v Google antitrust trial. Topics also include the iPhone 15 event, Google's dominance in the search engine market, and Unity's new pricing model causing developer backlash.
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Quick takeaways

  • The US v Google antitrust trial centers around the significance of defaults and their impact on competition in the search market.
  • Google's exclusive deals and payments to Apple for default search position on the iPhone are raising concerns about fair competition.

Deep dives

Google's chief economist emphasizes the importance of scale and data

Google's chief economist, Hal Varian, was questioned about internal emails highlighting the significance of scale and data. The Department of Justice (DOJ) presented arguments opposing Varian's claim that data is not everything in the search market. The DOJ also introduced the concept of defaults, asserting that defaults matter significantly and that Google pays large sums to secure default positions. The trial has raised questions about the influence of defaults and the impact of Google's deals on competition.

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