Impolitic with John Heilemann

Patrick Gaspard, Pt. 2: The Audacity of Mamdani

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Jan 26, 2026
Patrick Gaspard, former Obama political director, DNC chief, and U.S. ambassador, discusses his role advising Zohran Mamdani and what propelled the new mayor’s rise. They compare Mamdani’s style to Obama’s. Conversations cover Mamdani’s controversial call to abolish ICE, strategies to shield New York from federal pressure, and the practical politics of big, transformative promises.
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ANECDOTE

Early Meeting That Led To A Mentorship

  • Patrick Gaspard first met Zohran Mamdani in 2015 at a Mira Nair film event and kept watching his rise.
  • He later advised Mamdani informally through the campaign and into transition, praising his organizing and authenticity.
INSIGHT

Authenticity Trumps Polished Spin

  • Gaspard says both Barack Obama and Zohran Mamdani display the same private‑public alignment that builds trust.
  • He argues that authentic vulnerability can be a political strength, not a liability.
ANECDOTE

Emotion And Courage On The Trail

  • Gaspard recounts Mamdani becoming emotional about death threats during a campaign clip that worried some observers.
  • He says that vulnerability and courage coexist in Mamdani, strengthening his appeal.
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