The Agency Profit Podcast
The State of Selling Fractional CMO Services, With John Jantsch
Points of Interest
00:44 – 01:55 – Evolution of Duct Tape Marketing: John explains how he developed a structured marketing system that focuses on strategy before tactics, addressing the unique challenges of smaller businesses.
02:43 – 03:09 – Growth of the Duct Tape Marketing Ecosystem: John talks about the expansion of his framework, which has now been adopted by over 400 certified agencies and consultants.
03:09 – 04:31 – Research on Fractional CMOs: John introduces his latest research on fractional CMOs and the increasing demand for this part-time, high-level marketing leadership role in the industry.
05:06 – 06:51 – Solo Consultants vs Larger Firms: John and Marcel discuss how fractional CMOs are typically solo consultants but are also being adopted by larger firms that are shifting toward more strategic offerings.
06:51 – 07:46 – Pressure on Agencies: Marcel and John address the challenges agencies face today, including AI-powered competition and offshore services, which force agencies to focus more on strategy and client relationships.
08:43 – 10:12 – Insight from Research: John shares key insights from his research, including how offering fractional CMO services enhances an agency’s strategic position, improves client relationships, and increases pricing power.
11:48 – 14:40 – Breadth vs. Depth of Experience: Marcel and John discuss the benefits of having broad marketing experience across industries versus being narrowly focused on one niche, and how this diversity brings fresh perspectives to clients.
17:20 – 19:09 – The Growing Demand for Fractional CMOs: John highlights how more small and midsized businesses are seeking fractional CMOs for strategic leadership as they recognize the need for high-level marketing guidance.
24:32 – 25:46 – Strategic Leadership Without Execution: Marcel and John explore how agencies can focus on strategy and project management while outsourcing execution, allowing for scalability and maintaining high margins.
30:29 – 32:16 – Growth of the Fractional CMO Role: John cites research showing that the fractional CMO role has grown by 60% in the past five years, predicting that this trend will continue as more businesses seek part-time strategic marketing leadership.
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