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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1020: Bill Kristol: Staring Down the Barrel

Apr 14, 2025
Bill Kristol, Editor-at-large of The Bulwark and founder of Defending Democracy Together, joins Tim Miller for a deep dive into the current political climate. They discuss Trump's blatant defiance of the Supreme Court and the alarming chilling effect on free speech among immigrants and on college campuses. Kristol sheds light on the fragile state of accountability within the U.S. government and the broader implications of political rhetoric amid rising geopolitical tensions. The conversation highlights the intersection of immigration policies and fundamental rights.
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Quick takeaways

  • The Trump administration's defiance of Supreme Court rulings on immigration highlights a dangerous erosion of legal accountability and civil liberties.
  • A culture of fear and self-censorship among immigrants and dissenters is emerging, undermining free speech and democratic values in America.

Deep dives

The Legal Quandary of Kilmar Abrego Garcia

The legal situation surrounding Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a father wrongfully sent to El Salvador, raises critical concerns about the U.S. government's accountability. Despite a 9-0 Supreme Court order mandating his return, the Trump administration appears to be stonewalling and avoiding action, showcasing a troubling unwillingness to rectify acknowledged injustices. There is apprehension about what this resistance to judicial directives signifies for the future of other wrongful deportations, particularly as the government seems to cultivate a climate of fear surrounding immigration. This situation exemplifies a deeper issue where political rhetoric demonizes immigrants, complicating efforts to coexist with diplomatic obligations and humane treatment.

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