Today on the More Cheese Less Whiskers.com podcast we're talking with Viktoriya Dolomanova from Portugal and we're talking with her on behalf of her husband Hugo, who's a graphic designer creating amazing labels, bottles, packaging mainly in the wine and the spirits area.

We had a really great conversation about how to differentiate and stand out in that marketplace. I think we all know that design matters, and we are definitely more attracted to a beautiful things, leaning toward the a well designed products, but it's difficult to get quantitative proof of that.

We talked a lot about how could you close that gap and bring assurance to people that design really does matter, and how to be the leader in bringing that voice to clients. Not only being now a designer that has incredible work to show but also documented proof that your designs make more money.

That's really the way to go and where we focused a lot of our conversation and I want you to think about that for you and your business. If you're doing something that is hard to prove, there are some great ideas on how to go about proving your worth in these conversations.

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