DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall

Rogue State | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou

Jan 6, 2026
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou dive into the US's controversial actions against Venezuela, discussing international reactions and the potential for economic collapse. They evaluate the implications of cutting off Venezuelan oil supplies to Cuba and ponder the risks of US military intervention. The duo also addresses significant social program cuts targeting blue states and explore the shifting political landscape. Anecdotes about driving etiquette around the world add a light-hearted touch to the serious discussion.
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INSIGHT

U.S. Coup Against Venezuela Upsets Global Order

  • The US seizure and trial of Nicolás Maduro shocked global norms and drew wide international criticism, showing unilateral force still reshapes geopolitics.
  • Ted Rall and John Kiriakou warn this action risks normalizing extra-territorial interventions and encourages other powers to copycat behavior.
ANECDOTE

Chaotic Taxi Ride To The Pyramids

  • John Kiriakou recounts chaotic driving in Cairo where multiple collisions occurred on the trip to the pyramids.
  • He describes continuing forward after hits and a taxi becoming disabled, illustrating extreme road danger.
ANECDOTE

Afghan Mountain Driving Is Deadly Thrill

  • John describes Afghan drivers flooring it on mountain passes, sending vehicles off cliffs as roadside entertainment.
  • He recalls piled-up wrecks in ravines and a constant risk of cars flying off turns on new NATO-built roads.
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