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Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Bernardo Kastrup, Donald Hoffman, Susan Schneider: Debate on Consciousness

Mar 10, 2023
Bernardo Kastrup, a Dutch computer scientist and metaphysical idealist, joins Donald Hoffman, a cognitive psychologist known for his user interface theory, and Susan Schneider, a philosopher focused on machine perception, for a riveting debate on consciousness. They explore whether computers can truly be conscious, challenging conventional views. The discussion delves into the distinction between intelligence and consciousness, the implications of AI, and the necessity for a rethink of consciousness as a fundamental aspect of reality rather than just a byproduct of physical systems.
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  • The nature of consciousness in machines was debated, with arguments focusing on fundamental consciousness, differences between private consciousness and machine capability, and compatibility of conscious AI with natural laws and feasibility.
  • The possibility of artificial general intelligence (AGI) leading to human-level consciousness was discussed, with emphasis on the need for empirical study, distinctions between intelligence and consciousness, and the lack of explanatory theories for conscious experiences.

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