In this pilot episode, design leaders Benedikt Lehnert and Kaaren Hanson join our host, Gordon Ching, Founder and CEO of the Design Executive Council, to dive into the human consequences of design decisions, the struggle with meaningful metrics, and how to bring more order and harmony to fast-moving organizations.

We also explore the ethical dilemmas of designing AI to be more human-like—what happens when we blur the lines between intelligence and emotion?

This isn’t just another design podcast. We’re here to have the conversations that matter, challenge assumptions, and expand the way we think about strategic design leadership. Let’s get into it.

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