Much has been made in recent weeks about the House GOP's 'five families' and Speaker Kevin McCarthy's efforts to unite these five ideologically-diverse caucuses in effort to strike a deal with the Biden White House on raising the debt ceiling. South Carolina Republican Rep. Nancy Mace recognizes how difficult it is for McCarthy to navigate the demands from each of the five factions, but she's content operating as a 'caucus of one,' an 'independent voice' marching to beat of her own drum.

So, she has her own opinions on the debt ceiling negotiations ("it's been both parties that got us into this"), abortion ("you have [GOP members] that don't want to talk about birth control...which is crazy and scary at the same time") and her embattled House Republican colleague ("I want to see George Santos removed from Congress").

We cover a lot of ground in this episode - don't miss Mace's takes on TikTok, ChatGPT and Elon Musk's Twitter.

This conversation was recorded inside the South Carolina congresswoman's office on Capitol Hill on May 18, 2023.

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