Wicked Problems - Climate Tech Conversations The Long Heat (with Wim Carton)
Jun 22, 2025
Wim Carton, a climate researcher and co-author of 'Overshoot' and 'The Long Heat', dives into the urgent climate crisis and the realities of carbon dioxide removal (CDR) technologies. He critiques the influence of fossil fuel companies and explores the socio-political dynamics hindering meaningful action. The conversation reveals the necessity of political change for effective climate strategies. Carton argues that while CDR may be necessary, it must be separated from existing systems that perpetuate fossil fuel use. Collaboration and inclusivity in climate discussions are emphasized.
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Overshoot Logic Protects Fossil Assets
- Overshoot means temporarily exceeding climate limits with hopes to reverse later.
- This overshoot logic stems from protecting fossil assets and is mainstream in climate models.
Asset Stranding Requires Political Fight
- Political processes for climate have been voluntary and have avoided confronting asset stranding.
- Real change will require direct political conflict with asset owners.
Climate Governance and Self-Delusion
- Climate governance often contains self-delusions, not conspiracies.
- Limits of imagination are set by hegemonic economic frameworks, restricting solutions.
