George Lakoff, highly cited cognitive scientist, discusses his formative experiences and the genesis of his famous ideas in cognitive science and linguistics. Topics include living with a murder, childhood memories in Bayonne, studying with Noam Chomsky, exploring the metaphorical structure of mathematics and framing, and the concept of embodied cognition.
The concept of metaphor, explored in George Lakoff's book 'Metaphors We Live By', fundamentally shifts how people perceive language and thought.
George Lakoff's collaboration with Charles Fillmore introduced framing into political discourse, revolutionizing the understanding of its role in politics and social life.
Deep dives
The serendipitous meeting that led to a groundbreaking theory
George Lakeoff and his collaborator Mark Johnson met in 1979 and quickly realized they had similar ideas about metaphor. They discussed the concept in Lakeoff's dining room with a small group of students, which sparked the exploration of unconscious conceptual metaphors. This led to the groundbreaking book, 'Metaphors We Live By', which has had a significant impact in cognitive science. Once people understand the concept of metaphor, they can't unsee it and start seeing metaphors everywhere. The staying power of this work comes from its ability to fundamentally shift how people perceive language and thought.
The discovery of framing and its impact in politics
George Lakeoff's collaboration with Charles Fillmore led to the exploration of framing, a concept Fillmore originally studied in anthropological linguistics. Lakeoff realized that framing played a critical role in politics and social life, so he wrote a book called 'Don't Think of an Elephant: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate'. This work introduced framing into political discourse and had a widespread impact. Although the study of framing continues to evolve, more work needs to be done in experimental psychology and other fields to fully understand its effects.
The undervalued book on mathematics and metaphor
George Lakeoff co-authored a book on the metaphorical structure of mathematics with Raphael Nunez. The book explored metaphors and how they shape mathematical understanding. While Lakeoff considers this book to be undervalued, it provides valuable insights into the nature of metaphor in mathematics. Additionally, Lakeoff's work on categorization challenged Aristotle's theory of categories and introduced the concept of radial categories, which has had a significant influence on cognitive science.
Reflections on a pioneering career
George Lakeoff reflects on his long and influential career, highlighting the importance of failure, the power of metaphor, and the role of unconscious thought. He acknowledges the ongoing work of his students and colleagues in the field and the need for further research in areas such as experimental psychology and framing. Despite his many achievements, Lakeoff remains humble and grateful for his collaborations and the impact his work has had on the understanding of cognition and language.
This is Cognitive Revolution, my show about the personal side of the intellectual journey. Each week, I interview an eminent scientist, writer, or academic about the experiences that shaped their ideas. The show is available wherever you listen to podcasts.
This week’s guest is George Lakoff. George is one of the most highly cited cognitive scientists of all time, with his book Metaphors We Live By (co-authored with Mark Johnson) having been referenced in over 75,000 other scientific papers. George is best known for his work on how metaphor provides the structure of cognition, generally known as the “conceptual metaphors” framework, as well as his foundational ideas about the embodied mind. In last week’s episode, I talked with Annie Murphy Paul about her recent book, The Extended Mind, which draws heavily on the program of research of which Lakoff is a cornerstone. Lakoff is also politically very active, though we venture much into those topics in this conversation. In this episode our discussion mainly centers around George’s formative experiences—particularly in his childhood and adolescence; notable among them is the time he lived with a murder—as well as the genesis of his most famous ideas in cognitive science and linguistics (the latter starts around minute 40:00).
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