Guests on this episode include senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith, political correspondents Danielle Kurtzleben, Ashley Lopez & Susan Davis, White House correspondent Franco Ordoñez, congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh, and senior political editor & correspondent Domenico Montanaro. They discuss the absurdity of a political boot conspiracy, whether Barbie is a feminist icon, Kevin McCarthy's political future, the evolving dress code in Congress, and unconventional alcoholic beverages.
The scrutiny and attention given to Ron DeSantis' boots turned the issue into a conspiracy theory, highlighting the level of energy and focus it received.
The controversy surrounding Barbie dolls sparked a discussion on gender norms, unrealistic body image, and differing opinions on whether Barbie can be seen as a feminist icon.
Deep dives
Ron DeSantis' Boots
One main topic discussed in the podcast episode is the fervor over Ron DeSantis' boots. The level of scrutiny and attention given to the boots, including reaching out to expert boot makers for their opinion, turned the issue into a conspiracy theory. While the podcast participants did not take a position on the boots themselves, they found the attention and energy surrounding the issue noteworthy.
Barbie Controversy
Another main topic explored in the podcast episode is the controversy surrounding Barbie dolls. One participant expressed their frustration with the gender norms and unrealistic body image associated with Barbie dolls. They discussed the challenges of explaining these issues to their daughter and the conflict it caused within their family. The conversation delved into whether Barbie could be seen as a feminist icon and the mixed opinions on the recent Barbie movie.
Kevin McCarthy's Speakership
The podcast episode also discussed the events surrounding Kevin McCarthy's speakership in the House of Representatives. The participants talked about the divisive nature of the Republican Party, the loyalty to Donald Trump, and how McCarthy's political fortunes were tied to Trump. They predicted that McCarthy might seek revenge and cause trouble for lawmakers who voted against him in the future.
The new year is nigh. We look back at all the things we couldn't stop thinking about in 2023 — politics or otherwise.
This episode: senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith, political correspondents Danielle Kurtzleben, Ashley Lopez & Susan Davis, White House correspondent Franco Ordoñez, congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh, and senior political editor & correspondent Domenico Montanaro.
This episode was edited by Erica Morrison. It was produced by Jeongyoon Han and Casey Morell. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.
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