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Greg Townsend worked for the ICC tribunals in Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Kosovo and Lebanon. I want to learn from Greg what the next steps will be in the ICC judicial process for the Israeli officials. Why they are being charged? And how this will all eventually play out. I also want to figure out whether these international institutions are in the Western democracies interest or if they have been co-opted by bad actors. I want to find out if Israel can legally defend itself if Hamas uses human shields.