This is a preview | Full episode released to subscribers: 14 Dec 2024 | Subscribe --> newmodels.io // In part due to the rise of AI-enabled systems, we are witnessing a shift in where and how the creative act takes place. It is a phenomenon that artists Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst have been grappling with for more than a decade through their music and their work with machine learning and its governance. With their exhibition “The Call” on view at the Serpentine in London through February 2nd and their book All Media is Training Data out this week, Holly and Mat join NM to talk about a new paradigm of artmaking and artist subject. We also discuss a new kind of collector and the tech-literate gallerists that are bridging legacy cultural systems with this particular future. For more: herndondryhurst.studio @hollyherndon & @matdryhurst Source.Plus public diffusion model Spawning.ai data governance for generative AI "The Call" Serpentine North Gallery, London All Media is Training Data (Serpentine, König, 2024)