In a captivating discussion, Steven Pinker, a renowned cognitive psychologist and popular science author, joins Richard Dawkins to unravel the intricacies of evolution. They explore the impact of natural selection versus outdated theories like Lamarckism, shedding light on misconceptions about animal behavior and human consciousness. Pinker also delves into color perception and his intriguing concept of a 'genetic book of the dead.' The conversation touches on the ethics of de-extinction and the interplay between religion and science, challenging societal beliefs and fostering deeper understanding.