Matinee Monday: The Secret (w/ Topher Grace & Joel Kim Booster)
Sep 4, 2023
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Topher Grace and Joel Kim Booster join Paul and Jason to discuss the French thriller The Secret starring David Duchovny & Olivia Thirlby. They unpack the insane premise of a mother's spirit going into her daughter's body. They also analyze the creepy dynamics and lack of grief in the film. Additionally, they explore emotional communication and missed opportunities. They discuss scenes, symbolism, and character behavior, and question certain aspects of the movie. They reflect on the pacing and alternative presentations, and discuss their recent projects and upcoming shows.
The film delves into uncomfortable relationships and explores the complexities of desires and identities.
The movie neglects to address the emotional journey and grief of losing a loved one, prioritizing personal growth and sexual desires instead.
The plot introduces irrelevant elements that are left unresolved, such as the eye examination and the mother's interest in photography.
Deep dives
Confusing and Inappropriate Relationships
The movie explores uncomfortable relationships, including the main character's wife inhabiting their daughter's body and their attempts to navigate their complicated desires and identities.
Lack of Emotional Depth
The film fails to address the grief and emotional journey of losing a loved one, with the characters seemingly more concerned with their own sexual desires and personal growth than processing their daughter's death.
Inconsistent and Unrealized Plot Points
The movie introduces various plot elements, such as the initial eye examination and the mother's interest in photography, that do not play significant roles in the narrative and are left unresolved.
Problematic Tones and Pacing
The movie shifts between comedic moments and disturbing scenes involving incestuous undertones, creating an uncomfortable viewing experience and leaving the audience uncertain of the intended tone and direction of the story.
A Unique Body-Switching Movie
In this podcast episode, the hosts discuss a French film called 'The Secret' that is based on a Japanese novel. The film revolves around a mother and daughter who are involved in a car accident, resulting in the mother's death. However, the mother's persona inhabits the daughter's body, leading to a strange and controversial plot. The daughter, now occupied by the mother's persona, attempts to seduce her own father, creating a deeply uncomfortable and taboo situation. The hosts discuss the movie's bizarre concept and question the choices made in its execution.
An Exploration of Unconventional Films
Throughout the podcast, the hosts discuss their reactions to the film 'The Secret' and explore the idea of unconventional movies. They question how and why a film like this would be made, and the potential motivations of the actors and filmmakers involved. The hosts express a mix of confusion, disbelief, and amusement as they dissect the plot, characters, and overall strange choices made in the film. The conversation leads to a broader discussion on the nature of art and subjective opinions. They also touch on the challenges of finding and watching the film, highlighting its limited availability and difficulty to locate.
Topher Grace and Joel Kim Booster join Paul and Jason to discuss the 2007 French thriller The Secret starring David Duchovny & Olivia Thirlby. They do their best to unpack the insane premise of a mother’s spirit going into her daughter’s body. Plus, Jason & Paul explain the film's plot to June to hear her reaction. (Originally released 04/11/2019)
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