The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

244. Asking A Theoretical Physicist About The Physics Of Consciousness | Roger Penrose

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Apr 14, 2022
In this engaging conversation, Roger Penrose, a British mathematical physicist and Nobel Laureate, discusses the intriguing nature of consciousness and its computational limits. He explores Gödel's theorem and its implications for understanding consciousness beyond mere algorithms. The dialogue touches on the interplay between mathematics and art, illustrated through M.C. Escher's works. Penrose also examines how intuition and pattern recognition influence human creativity and the complex relationship between consciousness, quantum mechanics, and the universe's origins.
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INSIGHT

Gödel's Theorem and Understanding

  • Gödel's theorem demonstrates that understanding transcends computation.
  • Trusting a system's rules allows one to see truths beyond its provable statements.
INSIGHT

Consciousness as a Correction System

  • Consciousness may function as a correction system for algorithmic processes.
  • It identifies and corrects errors in automated routines, refining performance.
ANECDOTE

Piano Playing and Automation

  • When practicing a motor routine, the active brain area shrinks as automation increases.
  • Consciousness helps build automated systems but isn't always necessary for their execution.
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