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I spy: meeting Ukraine’s intelligence chief

Jul 7, 2023

Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s youngest spymaster, shares insights on his role in the ongoing conflict, highlighting his charismatic leadership style and unconventional tactics against the Kremlin. Hal Hudson discusses the environmental challenges of deep-sea nickel mining, arguing for its potential benefits over traditional land mining in the quest for sustainable energy. The podcast also touches on the life of Donald Triplett, the first person diagnosed with autism, shedding light on historical perceptions and the evolution of mental health awareness.

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Hal Hudson

Kyrylo Budanov

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Episode notes

Intro

2min

Inside the Mind of Ukraine's Spy Chief

10min

Nickel Mining: Exploring Land vs. Ocean Resources

2min

Nickel Mining in the Deep Sea

5min

Navigating the Regulatory Waters of Deep Sea Mining

2min

The First Diagnosis: Donald Triplett's Story

8min

We sit down with Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s youngest-ever spymaster. He is intense, resolute—and oddly charismatic. A world of electrified transport is going to need lots of nickel for batteries. We argue that, environmentally speaking, gathering it from the seafloor clearly beats mining it on land (11:12). And remembering Donald Triplett, the first person ever to be diagnosed with autism (19:25).

Additional audio courtesy of “In A Different Key”, inadifferentkeythemovie.com

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