277. Deeper Yet Into The Weeds | Pageau & Vervaeke

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Aug 8, 2022

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John Vervaeke

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Jonathan Pageau

In a captivating conversation, Jonathan Pageau, a symbolic thinker and icon carver, joins John Vervaeke, a cognitive psychology professor, to explore profound themes. They discuss the intertwined nature of perception and prioritization in understanding our environment. With humor, they tackle the complexities of ethics, the nature of evil, and the transformative power of beauty and love. The dialogue also delves into narratives shaping morality and the philosophical connections between pragmatism and truth, offering listeners a rich tapestry of insights.

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INSIGHT

Perception Prioritization

To see the world, we must prioritize perceptions, as relevance realization prioritizes from an overload of information.
This prioritization is implicit, self-organizing, unconscious, and crucial for cognition, similar to AI.

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Perception as Prioritization

Perception acts as implicit prioritization, creating a hierarchy for focus.
This unconscious process avoids the homunculus problem by being self-organizing and dynamic.

ANECDOTE

Mind-Body Problem Example

Jordan Peterson illustrates the mind-body problem with writing, where the abstract intent transforms into physical action.
Consciousness exists at a specific resolution, evident in voluntary finger movements without muscle awareness.

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