

Europe's lessons in dealing with unreliability, extended deterrence for Aussie streets & lost luggage
Sep 1, 2025
This discussion dives into how Australia can learn from Europe’s responses to an unreliable US amid the Ukraine conflict. The hosts propose a bold idea of deploying the US National Guard and Marines on Australian streets. They also consider the intricate dynamics of Trump's foreign policy and its impact on Ukraine's resilience and defense strategies. Wrapping up with comedic yet poignant anecdotes, they highlight a deputy prime minister's chaotic trip to Washington and the challenges of diplomacy.
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Trump Favors Deals Over Ukrainian Justice
- Donald Trump's push for a quick 'deal' on Ukraine risks sacrificing Ukrainian interests for political gain.
- The hosts argue Trump prioritises a headline peace to claim credit rather than a just, durable settlement.
Ukraine's Indigenous Firepower Reduces US Leverage
- Ukraine has developed indigenous long-range strike capabilities, reducing US leverage.
- Marcus and Michael say Europe's and Ukraine's self-sufficiency limits American control over their choices.
Europe Is Moving Toward Defence Self-Reliance
- Europe is increasing defence spending to reduce dependence on US military technology and procurement.
- The hosts note this trend mirrors choices Australia has yet to make about its own defence industrial base.