NEI Podcast E270 - (CME) Complex Depression: Treating Beyond the Standard Algorithm
Dec 3, 2025
Stephen Stahl, a renowned psychiatrist and psychopharmacology expert, joins Roger McIntyre, a clinical researcher in mood disorders, to tackle the complexities of depression. They explore how to recognize and manage major depressive episodes with mixed features and the implications of DSM-5 specifiers on treatment. Highlights include discussions on the urgent need for updated guidelines, the efficacy of atypical antipsychotics, and the importance of individualized care to bridge the gap between evidence and practice in mental health treatment.
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Complex Depression Is A Vague Label
- “Complex depression” is a catch-all often meaning patients psychiatrists see after failed or partial treatments.
- Stephen M. Stahl warns the term lacks precision and often reflects residual symptoms or inadequate prior care.
Assess The Syndrome, Not Just The Label
- Major depressive episode is a syndrome, not a full etiologic diagnosis, so symptoms must be mapped individually.
- Andrew J. Cutler urges clinicians to assess symptom patterns and comorbidities beyond DSM criteria.
Re-evaluate ‘Treatment Resistance’ Early
- Reassess diagnosis in apparent treatment-resistant cases; many are misdiagnosed or inadequately treated.
- Roger McIntyre estimates 50–60% labeled TRD may be pseudo-TRD due to wrong diagnosis or inadequate trials.

