Bonus Sample: Manners, the Machine, and Malaparte’s Technique de Coup d’État
Feb 24, 2025
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The discussion dives into the dual nature of contemporary fascism, highlighting its ideological aesthetics and technocratic elements. It contrasts trolls' far-right beliefs with their coding skills. A century-old fascist thesis is unpacked, emphasizing the importance of controlling the 'machine' in a coup d'état. There's a critical look at how liberal discourse on manners distracts from the realities of power and capital. The conversation sheds light on the challenges of navigating social media dynamics and their impact on societal values.
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The podcast highlights how contemporary fascism emerges from the interplay of ideological aesthetics and technocratic power, reflecting societal values and leadership challenges.
It emphasizes that liberal discourse often gets distracted by debates on manners, avoiding deeper analysis of the systemic issues driving far-right ideologies.
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Emergence of Fascism in Modern Context
The discussion highlights the emergence of fascism in contemporary society, particularly through the actions and rhetoric of prominent figures such as Elon Musk. His viral poll regarding the rehiring of a controversial individual underscores a phenomenon where public attention is directed toward sensationalized debates about victimhood and cancellation, diverting focus from systemic issues like far-right ideologies. This duality of distraction not only reflects a preoccupation with individual narratives but also obscures deeper structural changes associated with a technocratic coup. As public discourse becomes embroiled in the aesthetics of fascism, it raises critical questions about societal values and the nature of leadership in today’s political landscape.
Manners and Machine: Dual Forces of Fascism
The concept of 'manners and machine' illustrates two pivotal components of emergent fascism: ideological aesthetics and technocracy. The discussion references Robert Paxton's definition of fascism, emphasizing its obsession with community decline and victimhood which feeds into conspiratorial thinking and scapegoating, particularly targeting marginalized groups. This notion is enriched by historical examples, revealing how different fascist movements have distinct aesthetics that resonate with their respective cultures yet share a common thread of unity and purity. Understanding these dynamics is essential for recognizing the unique manifestations of fascism in modern America, as evidenced by political trends and cultural movements.
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Controversies and Conversations: The Intersection of Racism and Social Media Dynamics
What do we worry more about: the far-right beliefs of trolls, or the coding skills of the trolls?
The split focus on Marco Elez and Elon Musk—are they Nazis, or hackers, or Nazi hackers?— highlight two prongs of emergent fascism. The ideological/aesthetic/psychological on one side, and the technocratic on the other. We can call them the manners and the machine.
First, Matthew unpacks a century-old thesis by an OG fascist that says totalitarian regimes take shape when both are working together, but that ultimately, the coup d’etat is about seizing control of the machine.
Then he rounds off with a rant about how easy it is liberal-centrist discourse about manners to distract from the reality of the machine. Why? It’s because in the absence of a clear analysis of how capital and power work—it’s in the sphere of manners—that liberals feel they have a fighting chance. But it’s also exactly where Musk and Elez and Vance and Trump can ignore them.