Born Free Method: The Podcast Designing with Nature: From Schauberger to the MAYU Swirl
Ze’ev Zohar, co-founder and CTO of MAYU Water, weaves art and science into the flow of everyday life. Trained as an engineer specializing in industrial design, he was moved by fatherhood to seek the purest water for his child. His creations revive tap water through swirling motion and gentle mineral touch, echoing the wisdom of springs—where beauty, function, and sustainability converge.
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00:20:40 - There are 72 names of God in Hebrew. Water also has 72 anomalous properties that distinguish it from other substances.
00:25:45 - Ze’ev’s fascination with water began with the birth of his children and a desire to find healthier drinking water in Israel. Water is so important that it got a number of shout outs in the Bible starting with Genesis 1:2 "The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.”
00:31:20 - The benefits of the MAYU Swirl device design begin with getting people to appreciate water again. Water is always in motion. Issues with reverse osmosis and distilled water. Living water is “happy water”.
00:41:45 - Is there a best drinking water? Viktor Schauberger and biomimicry. We tend to exploit nature and extract from Her. Biomimicry isn’t about copying nature but rather learning from nature.
00:56:40 - Surface tension , capillary action, taste, and other metrics to gauge the aliveness of your drinking water
01:04:30 - Gerald Pollack and exclusion zone (“EZ”) water. Water is far more complex than simply “H2O”. For example, water inside a vortex is cooler than outside a vortex motion. Fourth phase of water is known as “plasma”.
01:20:50 - Should we be thoughtful about “heavy” water and deuterium-depleted water?
01:26:40 - Trace mineral content in water is comparable to the terroir of wine. Taste can help to guide you to the right water for you. Unfortunately, we often let our heads get in the way of our intuition, which is also a primary issue in maternity care, where I contend that intuition is authoritative knowledge.
01:40:05 - Observing and appreciating water is a spiritual process in and of itself
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References from the conversation:
* Ana Bekoah, The Hebrew song we discussed at the beginning
* Find a clean local spring near you
* The Fourth Phase of Water : Beyond Solid, Liquid, and Vapor, by Gerald Pollack, PhD
* Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants, by Robin Wall Kimmerer
* Get an Analemma crystal wand to play with water coherence (10% off)
* Try deuterium-depleted water
* Use this link to get your own MAYU Swirl device for 10% off!
Show notes can be found on Substack
Related episodes:
* Dolf Zantinge: What Is Water?
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