

Ray McGovern: How Ineffective is Mass Surveillance?
14 snips Feb 3, 2025
Ray McGovern, a former CIA analyst known for his outspoken stance on U.S. intelligence and mass surveillance, discusses the questionable effectiveness of such programs. He dives into the ethical concerns tied to the Fourth Amendment and challenges the legality of intelligence practices. The conversation reveals the complications of data overload and how it may undermine political integrity. McGovern also sheds light on the CIA's influence in U.S. politics, including fascinating anecdotes involving former governors and global leaders.
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Mueller's "Special Authorities"
- Ray McGovern questioned Robert Mueller about parallel construction, a practice of illegally obtaining information and hiding its source.
- Mueller claimed they had "special authorities" after 9/11, seemingly justifying unconstitutional actions.
Post-9/11 Mindset
- A generation of federal agents has been trained to prioritize evidence collection over constitutional legality.
- This mindset, encouraged by the Bush administration, poses a significant challenge to reforming intelligence practices.
Ineffective Mass Surveillance
- Section 702 of the FISA Act allows for intrusive "two-hop" surveillance, collecting vast amounts of data.
- This mass surveillance is ineffective and officials, like General Alexander, have lied about its success.