Bianca Stone and Kevin Young discuss Franz Wright's poem 'Learning to Read' and the themes of loneliness, learning, and the complex relationship with a stepfather. They explore the power and depth of poetry, the relationship between autobiography and poetry, and the framing and structure of a poem. They also touch on the IDF's bombardment of Gaza and the impact of sanitizing it on Israeli TV screens.
Reading and language in poetry uncover aspects of our being and restore lost possibilities.
Poetry resists simple definitions but continues to captivate readers through its ever-evolving expressions and profound impact.
Deep dives
The Power of Reading and Language in Poetry
The podcast episode explores the significance of reading and language in poetry. Bianca Stone, a poet herself, discusses Franz Wright's poem 'Learning to Read' and how it celebrates the act of reading and language's ability to uncover aspects of our being. She also emphasizes the role of literature in restoring lost possibilities and acknowledges the transformative power of poetry. Stone's own poem, 'What's Poetry Like,' contemplates the nature of poetry, its contradictions, and its ability to capture the unconscious and the unspoken. The discussion highlights the importance of poetry in connecting with ourselves and others, as well as the lasting impact it can have on readers.
The Complexity of Definitions in Poetry
This part of the podcast delves into the challenge of defining poetry. Stone and the podcast host reflect on the various definitions and characteristics associated with poetry, acknowledging its bittersweet and complex nature. They touch on the accessibility and musicality of poetry, as well as its ability to hold contradictions. The poem 'What's Poetry Like' offers multiple definitions, exploring poetry's connection to dreams, hidden wisdom, truth, and the unspoken. This conversation underscores the idea that poetry resists simple definitions, yet continues to captivate and intrigue readers through its ever-evolving expressions and profound impact.
The Legacy of Poetry in a Family of Poets
In this segment, the discussion shifts to the legacy of poetry in families, focusing on Stone's personal experience coming from a family of poets. She reflects on the poetics of her grandmother, Ruth Stone, and their profound influence on her own work. Stone discusses the emotional depth in her grandmother's poems and the deep connection she feels to them. She also shares her ongoing efforts to preserve and carry forward her family's poetic legacy. Through her work, Stone honors the powerful impact poetry can have in shaping personal, familial, and literary legacies.
The Intersection of Visual Arts and Poetry
The podcast explores the intersection of visual arts and poetry, with Stone sharing her experience as a poetry comic artist and her current engagement with poetry memes. She discusses the challenges and the creative dynamic of combining visual images with text in order to enhance the poetic experience. Stone also highlights the humor and irreverence found in poetry memes, which resonate with poets and draw attention to the idiosyncrasies and humorous aspects of their lives and experiences. This conversation confirms the significance of visual elements in enriching the poetic medium and engaging a wider audience in the artistic expression of poetry.
Bianca Stone joins Kevin Young to read “Learning to Read,” by Franz Wright, and her own poem “What’s Poetry Like?” Stone has published several books of poetry and poetry comics, including, most recently, “What Is Otherwise Infinite.” She runs the Ruth Stone House in Vermont, hosts the podcast “Ode & Psyche,” and serves as Editor at Large for Iterant Magazine.