Daniel Susskind, "Growth: A History and a Reckoning" (Harvard UP, 2024)
Jul 3, 2024
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Author Daniel Susskind explores the history and impact of economic growth on human prosperity. He discusses the benefits and costs of our pursuit of growth, challenges the assumption that reducing growth will lead to better outcomes, and advocates for a more balanced approach that includes other success measures. Susskind emphasizes the importance of shifting to new ideas and working methods to continue pursuing growth while mitigating its high costs.
Economic growth has lifted billions from poverty but comes with moral challenges.
GDP is a flawed measure of well-being; calls for a balanced 'dashboard' approach.
Susskind suggests pursuing growth through innovative ideas to conserve finite resources.
Deep dives
Growth Dilemma: Balancing Economic Prosperity and Environmental Impact
The podcast episode delves into the concept of the growth dilemma, where economic growth is recognized as essential for prosperity but also poses challenges such as climate change, rising inequalities, and disruptive effects of technologies like AI. Professor Daniel Susskind explains the tension between the promise and price of growth, leading to the concept termed the growth dilemma.
Historical Shift Towards Economic Growth Measurement
Daniel Susskind discusses the relatively recent focus on economic growth, tracing back to the 1950s when discussions about economic growth began to emerge. The podcast emphasizes the development of the GDP measure and its role in becoming a central focus of economic and political debates.
Impact of Technological Progress on Work
The episode explores the impact of technology and automation on the labor market, where technologies can either substitute or complement human labor. Susskind highlights a need to shift the development of technologies towards complementing human workers, and suggests changing tax incentives and cultural norms to encourage technologies that support rather than replace workers.
Comprehensive Metrics Beyond GDP
In discussing metrics beyond GDP, Susskind promotes a 'dashboard approach' where GDP is supplemented with additional measures tailored to specific social values and concerns. He advocates for a broader political deliberation to determine these measures, emphasizing the need to capture a wider range of societal well-being indicators.
Gardening Book Recommendation: 'Planting the Ulduv Gardens'
As a departure from his usual work-related reads, Susskind recommends 'Planting the Ulduv Gardens' by Rory Dusoix, focusing on a gardening movement that mimics natural plant growth and introduces new perennialism. The book offers insights into rethinking traditional gardening practices and embracing a more natural approach to cultivating gardens.
Daniel Susskind examines the brief and powerful history of economic growth and puts it into perspective with human prosperity in Growth: A History and a Reckoning (Harvard UP, 2024).
Susskind acknowledges the tremendous benefits of economic growth, which he credits with freeing billions of people from poverty and allowing us to live longer and healthier lives. He also recognizes the real and substantial costs of our relentless pursuit of growth at the expense of other considerations and moral challenges.
Responding to the degrowth movement, Susskind counters the assumption that simply reducing growth will lead to better outcomes.
In particular, Susskind points out that our key measure of growth, GDP, is one imperfect metric that is neither intended nor effective as a proxy for well-being. He recommends a more balanced "dashboard" approach that includes GDP along with other success measures.
Reducing our myopic focus on GDP does not mean less growth. Susskind presents an alternate approach, arguing that we should continue to pursue growth through the creative application of new ideas that allow us to use our finite natural resources more effectively and efficiently.
Ideas, he points out, are not a scarce asset but an infinite one; by shifting to focus on new ways of thinking and working Susskind shows how we can continue to pursue the benefits of growth while mitigating the high costs.