My guest this week is Dr. Joel Minden, who’s been on the podcast twice before (check out episode 21 and epidose 87). I always enjoy talking with Joel, who has such a wealth of knowledge about treating anxiety and depression. We thought together again about the most effective way to approach these conditions, especially the question of how much we try to change our emotions versus making peace with them, and focusing on doing what’s important to us.

As always, Joel does a really nice job at striking a compassionate balance between understanding the difficulty in doing things that are important to us when we're struggling, while also encouraging us not to make emotions the enemy or let them define what we can and can't do. I’ll look forward to your thoughts about this conversation.

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Ep. 120: Dr. Joel Minden — The Best Tools for Managing Anxiety & Depression