Inside the Rope with David Clark

Ep 197: Craig Packer - Targeting 10% Without the Volatility: The Power of Private Credit

May 26, 2025
Craig Packer, Co-President of Blue Owl Capital, delves into the booming private credit market, revealing how his firm achieves impressive equity-like returns with less volatility through senior secured loans. He discusses the stark contrast between U.S. and Australian private credit landscapes and addresses potential concerns about a private debt bubble. Also highlighted are Blue Owl's disciplined underwriting practices and its philanthropic efforts. With a focus on transparency and governance, Craig offers insights into the future of private lending.
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ANECDOTE

Craig Packer's Career Journey

  • Craig Packer worked at Drexel Burnham on the famous RJR Nabisco LBO.
  • He later held leadership roles at Credit Suisse and Goldman Sachs before joining Blue Owl.
INSIGHT

Blue Owl's Explosive Growth

  • Blue Owl started as Owl Rock focusing on large direct lending to private equity-backed companies.
  • It grew from $12 billion to managing $140 billion in credit assets, showing huge industry growth.
INSIGHT

Blue Owl's Lending Strategy

  • Blue Owl lends primarily to private equity-backed companies, focusing on senior secured loans with low loan to value.
  • Their strategy targets multi-billion dollar stable sector companies to generate consistent 10% annual returns.
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