

Ep. 374: Discussing Liberalism (Lincoln, et al) with Walter Sterling (Part One)
Aug 25, 2025
Join J. Walter Sterling, President of St. John's College, as he dives into the pressing crisis of liberal democracy. The discussion covers Lincoln's insights on political institutions and critiques modern works like Pinker's and Deneen's. Sterling emphasizes the importance of liberal education in combating hyper-partisanship and fostering civic engagement. The conversation also explores the delicate balance between revolutionary change and the rule of law, highlighting how character and education are key in sustaining democratic values and navigating pluralistic beliefs.
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College President's Perspective
- Walter Sterling introduces himself as president of St. John's College and explains his investment in liberal education.
- He frames his concern about liberal democracy through the mission and character of liberal arts education.
Education Sustains Liberal Democracy
- Walter Sterling links the fate of liberal democracy to the character produced by liberal education.
- He argues a cultivated citizenry is uniquely necessary to sustain pluralistic institutions.
Revolutionary Passion Can Become Destruction
- Lincoln warned that revolutionary zeal that built the republic can become the passion that tears it down in peacetime.
- Ambitious, distinction-seeking people may convert civic fervor into destructive internal projects.