Hey there, language learners! Here at Refold, we're all fangirling a bit over this guest. In this episode, Clayton invited Killer Gerbah onto the program, and he just so happens to be the creator of one of our *favorite* video players for immersion - ASB Player.

Tune in as Clayton and Killer Gerbah discuss his philosophy behind software development and his rationale for keeping this extremely powerful tool free. They also dive into Killer Gerbah's history as a language learner and why he felt the need to create this tool.

If you're curious about trying out ASB Player for yourself, Ben made some amazing tutorials about how to use ASB Player that you can find here:

• https://youtu.be/Pv4Sp01Uh64
• https://youtu.be/jXO4gmCmcNE

Don't need a tutorial and want to try out ASB Player for yourself?

• Download ASB Player here: https://github.com/killergerbah/asbplayer/releases