It Could Happen Here The Mainstreaming of Nick Fuentes by the Coward Tucker Carlson
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Nov 13, 2025 
Nick Fuentes, a far-right influencer known for leading the Groypers, and Tucker Carlson, former Fox News host turned independent commentator, dive into the fallout from their controversial interview. The conversation reveals a rift within the conservative movement, as Ben Shapiro passionately challenges the normalization of extremist views. Topics include the growing acceptance of antisemitism in the GOP, the internal conflict at the Heritage Foundation, and the implications of Fuentes' mainstreaming strategies, highlighting a significant shift in conservative dynamics.
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Carlson's Calculated Platforming
- Tucker Carlson framed inviting Nick Fuentes as a chance to hear an "ascendant" voice and to mentor him into more palatable rhetoric.
- Carlson acknowledged he risked criticism but calculated Fuentes won't disappear and deserves to be heard.
Heritage's Defense Sparked Backlash
- Heritage's initial defense of Tucker catalyzed internal revolt and donor losses over perceived normalization of Fuentes.
- Kevin Roberts argued engagement beats cancellation, claiming outreach can reclaim disaffected young men.
Refuse To Signal-Boost Extremists
- Ben Shapiro urged drawing moral lines by refusing to signal-boost Hitler supporters like Nick Fuentes.
- He framed criticism of such figures as a form of free speech, not cancellation.
