Pastor and immigration activist, Isaac Villegas, joins the pod to discuss mystic, liberation, feminist theologian Dorothee Soelle's book To Work and to Love: a Theology of Creation.

What does it mean to be a co-creator and co-lover when capitalism and imperialism threaten to undo creation? How does work affect workers, communities, and the planet? Might making love compel us to make revolution? Villegas and Soelle are here to walk us through these questions of material and spiritual consequence.

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Music by Amaryah Armstrong

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