Celina is an intersectional conservationist, ecologist, photojournalist, ambassador for Girls who Click and a member of the youth council for Reseva - the Youth Land Trust. We talked about the Illegal Wildlife Trade, the importance of truthful science communication, her work with Reserva - the youth land trust, and the lack of diversity in wildlife filmmaking and photojournalism. We also finished off the episode talking about two incredible books, so stay tuned for more book-related content on my Instagram and Ko-fi page soon. You can find out more about Celina's work here: https://www.instagram.com/celinaxchien/ and here https://www.celinachien.com/ Follow the podcast on Instagram - @coffee_with_conservationists / follow me - @george_brynmor  on Instagram. Buy me a Ko-fi and help support local and indigenous coffee growing communities and small, independent coffee shops. https://ko-fi.com/coffeewithconservationistspod Coffee Notes - gifted by Blackfin Coffee Origin - Virunga region, Democratic Republic of Congo  Tasting Notes - notes of raspberry, blueberry and dark chocolate  Music - "Heron Island" by Richard Bentley - https://www.smallsilence.org/