The Vergecast

Nothing’s gadget renaissance, and our favorite TV remotes

Jul 19, 2023
Carl Pei, CEO of Nothing, shares his vision for blending fun with technology as they discuss the innovative features of the new Phone 2, from customizable notifications to the challenges of competing in a saturated market. Pei dives into the future of AI, foldables, and VR, exploring how these elements could shape our gadget experience. Later, the hosts humorously debate the best and worst TV remotes, shedding light on user-centric design and the nostalgia surrounding simpler, past remotes.
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INSIGHT

Tech's Boredom

  • Tech feels less exciting now because dominant companies prioritize proven models.
  • Smaller companies struggle to enter the market due to high barriers.
ANECDOTE

Factory Skepticism

  • Carl Pei faced skepticism from factories due to past failures of phone startups.
  • Factories now demand upfront payments, increasing financial challenges for new ventures.
INSIGHT

Strategic Market Entry

  • Nothing chose mature markets like headphones and smartphones for initial stability.
  • Success in these markets allows for future innovation and exploration of new form factors.
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