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Revealing Elon’s Secret AI Trading Bot: Is It Worth It?

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Dec 9, 2025
The Alpha Arena experiment pits AI trading models against one another, bringing Grok 4.2 to the forefront with an impressive 60% profit in just two weeks. The podcast dives into the intricacies of AI trading strategies and behavioral patterns that question the need for human oversight. Highlights include insights into various AI personalities and their distinct trading styles, alongside discussions on transparency in AI and the value of collaboration between human traders and technology. It’s a fascinating exploration of the future of AI in finance!
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INSIGHT

Real-Money AI Trading Test

  • Alpha Arena ran real-money AI trading contests with eight models to test real-world performance.
  • Season 1.5 revealed a clear winner and raised questions about signal vs. luck in short-term tests.
ANECDOTE

The Mystery Model Was Grok 4.20

  • Ajaz reveals the mystery model was an unofficial Grok version called Grok 4.20, announced by Elon Musk.
  • Grok 4.20 won multiple competitions and attracted attention for its dominant performance.
INSIGHT

Four Competitions, Four Behavioral Tests

  • Season 1.5 ran four parallel competitions with different rulesets to probe trading behavior.
  • The formats ranged from full-info baseline to max-leverage degeneracy, exposing varied model strategies.
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