The Al Franken Podcast David A. Graham on What Project 2025 Wrought
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Dec 21, 2025 
David A. Graham, a journalist at The Atlantic and author of "The Project: How Project 2025 is Shaping America," dives into the shocking implications of Project 2025. He reveals how its architects viewed Trump’s first term as a failure, prompting a shadow administration plan. Topics include immigration overhaul, education privatization, and radical healthcare reforms. Graham emphasizes Russell Vought’s strategy to centralize power and demoralize government employees, warning of the long-term risks for democracy and federal governance.
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Rob Reiner: Friend, Director, Political Ally
- Al Franken recounts a 20-year-old Air America sketch with Rob Reiner and Meg Ryan that highlights Rob's support for Franken's politics.
- He uses the story to illustrate Rob Reiner's friendship and political activism.
Christian Nationalism Woven Into Policy
- Project 2025 embeds a Christian-nationalist vision, centering traditional family and biblical values.
- Authors explicitly prioritize a Christian God and biblical family structure in policy aims.
Plan To Privatize Public Education Funding
- Project 2025 seeks to end government-run public schooling and shift to government-funded private and religious education.
- The plan pays for schooling but advocates removing the government as the provider.
