The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 365 | Cathy Heller on How to Quit Your Day Job, How to Find the Best Idea for a New Business, and Why Purpose Cures Depression

Sep 8, 2020
Kathy Heller, a former songwriter turned author and coach, shares her journey from childhood trauma to helping others find their purpose. She discusses the significance of embracing adversity, the pivot from a corporate job to creative success, and how she built a thriving online course and podcast while maintaining authenticity. Heller emphasizes the importance of purpose over fleeting happiness in combating depression and shares practical steps for validating business ideas and scaling offerings, all while stressing the value of empathy and connection.
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ANECDOTE

From Pain To Purpose

  • Kathy Heller describes a traumatic childhood with parental violence and a mother who became suicidal.
  • That experience pushed her to seek meaning and later shaped her mission to make people feel seen and needed.
ANECDOTE

Almost A Record Deal, Then A Pivot

  • Kathy got a major label record deal and felt it might cost her integrity, then she was dropped.
  • That setback led her to take a day job and later pivot into licensing songs for TV and ads.
ADVICE

Sell What People Actually Need

  • Find real revenue channels by asking insiders what they need and then create that work.
  • Cold-call music supervisors and agencies and offer tailored songs for film, TV, and ads.
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