What is the role of a couples therapist in deciding whether a couple stays together or separates? In this episode, Sade Kammen shares their experience trying to navigate the impact of racism in their relationship, only to be met with unusual and unhelpful therapeutic interventions. Plus, we familiarize ourselves with the wonderfully curious idea of empirically-supported bullshit.

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Introduction: 0:00 – 6:28

Part One: 6:28 – 53:31

Part Two: 53:31 – 1:06:31

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