Jim Murphy is the author of "Inner Excellence," a book compelling enough that NFL players read it during playoff games.

This conversation explores Jim's counterintuitive thesis that selflessness, not ego, is the foundation of fearless performance. We discuss his journey from mental breakdown to spiritual awakening, his five years of solitude in the desert, and why self-centeredness is our greatest obstacle to both peak performance and fulfillment.

Along the way, Jim reveals my own attachment to outcomes and the transactional relationship I have with love.

Jim's wisdom is hard-won. This conversation is powerful. Enjoy!

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