The Megyn Kelly Show

The Mafia Code, Turning on the Mob, and Life After Prison, with "Sammy the Bull" Gravano | Ep. 352

Jul 7, 2022

Joining the discussion is "Sammy the Bull" Gravano, a former Gambino family mobster turned government informant, now a podcaster. He shares gripping tales of his rise in organized crime and the shocking betrayal that led him to testify against infamous mob boss John Gotti. Gravano reflects on the moral complexities of his past, the mafia code, and his transformation in witness protection. With anecdotes weaving faith, family ties, and a haunting connection to violence, this conversation offers a rare glimpse into the life of a man who traded the mob for redemption.

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Intro

2min

From Rising Star to Notorious Informant in Organized Crime

3min

The Impact of Testimony and the Benefits of Walking

2min

From Mafia to Redemption

24min

Living Between Two Worlds

5min

Morality in Crime and Warfare

14min

Family Loyalty and Confrontation in the Face of Betrayal

2min

Power, Crime, and Morality in the Construction Industry

11min

The Struggles of Mom-and-Pop Shops

20min

10.

Betrayal and Brotherhood in the Underworld

2min

11.

From Mob Life to Witness Protection

15min

12.

Exploring the Ethical Complexities of Organized Crime

4min

Megyn Kelly is joined by "Sammy the Bull" Gravano, host of the "Our Thing" podcast and former Gambino family mobster, to talk about why he turned on the mafia, how he survived hits on his life, life growing up, how he got involved with the mafia and Gambino crime family, the feeling he had after making his first kill, his connection to God but not religion, the Mafia "code" (and breaking it), family and parenting, the power that came from his mafia role, the cultural cache of "The Godfather," the breaking news of James Caan's death, Gravano on Caan's and Sinatra's associations with the mob, what witness protection was like, how Sammy the Bull got involved with social media and YouTube, and more.

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