The Rollup Dormant BTC Whale Offloading Billions, Tokenization Mania, Ethereum Goes All-In on ZK and Songcoins with Karel Kubat, Michael Sonnenshein and Cooper Turley
Jul 16, 2025
Michael Sonnenshein, COO at Securitize, discusses the impact of a dormant Bitcoin whale offloading billions and the tokenization of real-world assets. Karel Kubat, Founder of Union, shares insights on Bitcoin's future and innovations in the ZK space. Cooper Turley, known for building SongCoins, dives into how blockchain can revolutionize music, enabling fans to invest in their favorite artists. Together, they explore the evolving landscape of crypto legislation and the exciting potential of integrating decentralized finance into everyday life.
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Union Focuses on Bitcoin
- Union strategically pivoted towards Bitcoin due to its dominance and alignment with high security and decentralization values.
- Bitcoin whales prefer safe, low-yield opportunities over risky ones, fitting Union's philosophy perfectly.
Union's New Bitcoin LST
- Union is launching a new Bitcoin Liquid Staking Token (LST) called aubtc representing a "gilded" version of BTC.
- This aligns well with their tech and positions Union as a core player in Bitcoin asset issuance.
Building Authentic Crypto Communities
- Build a strong community by engaging authentically and valuing active contributors.
- Prioritize long-term community growth over short-term hype or mercenary participation.