In this conversation, Liz Ann Sonders interviews Dario Perkins of TS Lombard. They discuss the growing international skepticism towards U.S. policy, the implications of trade deficits and capital account surpluses, and the risks of recession in the current economic climate. They explore the Federal Reserve's reaction function in light of labor market dynamics and the political influence on monetary policy. The discussion also touches on the potential for a "Liz Truss moment" in the U.S. and concludes with a look at the bull case for the U.S. economy.

Finally, Kathy and Liz Ann discuss the data and economic indicators they will be watching in the coming week.

You can keep up with Dario Perkins on X or follow his podcast Perkins Vs Beamish.

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