LIVE from Vancouver with Sallie McFague and John Cobb
Aug 25, 2016
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In a vibrant live discussion, theologians Sallie McFague and John Cobb explore the intersections of faith, science, and process thought. McFague, known for her ecological theology, reflects on her recent work, while Cobb dives into progressive interpretations of Paul and the challenges posed by the problem of evil. They engage in a lively debate about divine power, emphasizing a shift towards empowerment and hope amid adversity. The conversation culminates in a heartfelt exploration of finding beauty and connection in community, even in the face of mortality.
John Cobb discusses the importance of process theology in engaging with contemporary issues while remaining rooted in spiritual traditions.
Sallie McFague emphasizes the necessity of confronting grief and despair to foster hope and inspire action toward societal challenges.
The podcast highlights the evolving societal attitudes toward gender and sexuality, reflecting deeper theological understandings and promoting inclusivity in faith.
Deep dives
Craft Beer and Community Engagement
The podcast highlights the significance of community engagement through a live event in Vancouver that featured local craft beer and a jazz band. This event not only fostered a sense of community among attendees but also created a unique atmosphere for discussing theology. The involvement of co-host Trevor, with his extensive local connections, played a crucial role in facilitating this gathering, showcasing how local culture can enrich theological discussions. Such gatherings illustrate that faith can be both a communal and a celebratory experience, moving away from traditional and potentially stale formats.
Theological Wisdom from John Cobb and Sally McFague
The discussion centers around the vast theological insights shared by John Cobb and Sally McFague, who together bring over 120 years of experience in theology. Cobb emphasizes the role of process theology as a way to engage with contemporary issues while maintaining a connection to spiritual roots. Both theologians challenge traditional dogmas, suggesting that understanding God and faith requires a more nuanced approach that integrates modern insights. This exchange sheds light on the transformative power of theology to address contemporary concerns like ecological crises and social justice.
Redefining Power and Divine Love
The nature of divine power is reexamined, moving past traditional notions of omnipotence to understand God as a loving presence actively empowering humanity. Cobb argues that divine power should not be viewed as controlling or punitive, but rather as a source of empowerment and liberation. This perspective invites a rethinking of the problem of evil, suggesting that the existence of suffering does not negate God's goodness but can enhance our understanding of divine love. It highlights the importance of a relational view of God, where love and purpose shape our engagement with the world.
Hope Amidst Despair
Both Cobb and McFague explore the emotional weight of confronting the world’s challenges, particularly environmental destruction and societal injustices. They assert that acknowledging grief and despair is essential for genuine hope, framing it as a vital step in the prophetic tradition. As society grapples with significant challenges, they suggest that the practice of faith must include advocacy and action toward liberation for all peoples and the planet. Their insights promote a constructive approach to faith, encouraging individuals to find hope through community, love, and active participation in creating change.
The Transformative Power of Inclusive Theology
The conversation touches upon the profound changes occurring in societal attitudes toward gender and sexuality, emphasizing that such shifts reflect deeper theological understandings. Cobb notes that the potential for significant societal changes inspires hope, as barriers are dismantled and inclusivity flourishes. This evolution in thought is paralleled in theological discourses, which increasingly embrace diverse voices and perspectives, creating a more holistic understanding of faith. The implication is that a richer, more inclusive theology can lead to more vibrant communities and renewed spiritual experiences.
This episode is like rolling a theological Yahtzee.
Tripp is joined by co-host Trevor Malkinson and two titans of theology - Sallie McFague and John Cobb. What you are about to hear is so zesty, so drenched in wisdom, you might just wreck you car or walk into a pole.
To kick things off, John Cobb gives us some process hot takes on:
retrieving Paul for progressive Christians
science doesn't really hate God
the problem of evil
God's power
and inter-religious relationality
Then, Sallie joins the group to share and reflect on a section from her book. To conclude, Trevor asks Sallie, John, and Tripp about where the find hope in a process worldview.
