We recorded this conversation just after the election. We talked about it, especially Travis's and the Cato Institute's views. One of his main views is that the US puts too much executive authority in the president. I'm also

We shared our concerns about the Inflation Reduction Act coming from different standpoints, but agreeing with each other.

Our main conversation was about approaching sustainability from a view of freedom, not coercion or imposing values. I share my view that

If you think living more sustainably makes people’s lives worse, you have to become a better dictator.

If you think living more sustainably improves people’s lives, you learn to become a better marketer, entrepreneur, or leader.

Travis agrees on the problems with top-down coercion and we took off from there.

• My interview in Washington Square Park where the interviewer tried to rile me up.
• My post: If you think living more sustainably makes people’s lives worse, you have to become a better dictator. If you think living more sustainably improves people’s lives, you learn to become a better marketer, entrepreneur, or leader.

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