Pastors Podcast Credibility Reveals the Integrity of the Supernatural | Season 9, Episode 9
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Dec 29, 2025 
In a fascinating conversation, Richard Gordon, Chief Technology Officer at Bethel Church and Spiritual Director at Bethel School of Technology, shares his punk-rock conversion and journey from engineering to ministry. He emphasizes the importance of credibility in the supernatural and explains how testing miracles glorifies Jesus rather than individuals. Richard also discusses balancing critical thinking with childlike faith, the manifestations of God's glory, and the need for pastors to create space for the Holy Spirit in their ministries.
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Local Church As Revival Vehicle
- Revival usually advances through strengthened local churches rather than solo movements.
- Banning Liebscher and Richard Gordon emphasize investing in local church health to change cities and nations.
From Punk Mohawk To Bethel Staff
- Richard Gordon described walking into a 104-year church with an orange mohawk and encountering Jesus.
- That encounter led him to leave engineering and join Bethel after his wife attended BSSM.
Bring Mind And Childlikeness Together
- Keep your intellect but put on the mind of Christ instead of 'turning off' your brain.
- Use your problem-solving gifts while intentionally cultivating childlikeness to break comparison and pride.
